Spartan Warrior and Podcasts: OBSTACLE ORDER

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Monterey-over-dunk-wall-2015 Eli Markstrom, Monterey Spartan Race, 2015

On this episode of the Gut Guardians Podcast, Elijah Markstrom comes onto the show. You might have seen him on Grace’s blog, The Gut Institute, as he was one of the case studies to implement Grace’s 7-Steps. Elijah is super athlete who enjoys running marathons, obstacle course races, and other high performance activities. Elijah found that his gut was not in the best of shape, and sought out Grace to get it back into working order. After a few weeks, Elijah noticed significant changes to his gut health along side of unexpected positive results. This episode covers his case study N=1 and how he benefited from the 7-Steps. Enjoy!


Show Notes

  • darlingjojo

    Hi Grace,
    I can hardly wait to listen to what this fellow has to say. Things have been kind of wild here and too noisy and distracted for me to listen to much of anything right now. But I want to hear how his 7 steps of fiber is working out. I want to see if we are seeing anything similar in our N=1 experiments.
    So far, in 7 days I have lost 3.3 pounds with minimal working out (compared to what I used to do with a trainer last year). Some days I use more of the fiber and some days less. I change fibers around a little and include more veggies and some days I eat more fruit. I was eating lots more fruit a few days into this 7 day period because I had started my sugar free experiment. Excluding all dessert and sugar was very hard but it has suddenly gotten easier. I am not desperate to find something sweet now. I am relaxing into this sugarless eating now instead of holding on by my fingernails. I can do with less fruit. And best of all my mood is very up. Somehow I have more get up and go juice in me too. My memory is suddenly better too. If I am able to drop about 4 pounds a week I will be at goal weight in a few months. My muscle development is going well too. I am getting closer to doing real men’s pushups and I can see the glute muscles forming from my Metabolic Aftershock workouts. My little gut bugs must be changing over to something much better. Going sugar free must really sweep the bad bugs out. I am still using the cooked refrigerated rice in the morning. I really like it. Morning protein are eggs or some kind of meat or even sardines (used to crave them as a child). I eat a half piece of rice bread toast with butter for a special treat. Things are calming down craving wise. Soon I will be totally sugar free except for on Saturdays. But it is getting to the point where I don’t feel compelled to eat sugar and so maybe it will fade out of desirability just like my chocolate addiction did. Wish I had all the money I had spent through the years on chocolate, it would make quite a nice pile in the bank. The good bugs must be making me happy because I don’t even want all the munchie, hyper salty things like chips either.
    Thank you so very much Grace. I hope to send you some before and after photos in a few months,

    • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

      darlingjojo

      Your progress is awesome~!! You must have many of the good gut flora to start off with. Non-responders will ‘fail’ if they are missing too many of the microbes or have excess # of the potential pathogens that compromise the barrier function.

      Glad to hear letting go for fruit, desserts and sugars was not too difficult! The MICROBIAL MADNESS did not win out! Eli also saw tremendous reductions in sugar cravings by feeding the fiber-loving gut flora!

      Exactly what I love hearing are people transforming their lean mass. This is tough. Most people have so much insulin resistance at the cellular and gut level. Even though they may appear perfect and thin on the outside, they can’t put on muscle. Or for those with a big beer belly, they can’t shed the fat tire. This works! The intensity of Metabolic Aftershock is great. I love the Teta group. They are also functional medicine practitioners, of course.

      Thank you for your input and sharing your thoughts, darlingjojo!

  • sallycinnamonau

    Hi Grace,

    All so very interesting. Thank you to you and Elijah for this info.

    I have a few questions.

    – Should honey be restricted or just refined sugar?

    – How to tell if these new gut bacteria have colonised and the new uBiome results are not picking up bacteria that were ingested as a probiotic supplement? Do probiotic supplements colonise?

    – What are your thoughts on biofilm? Do some people need a biofilm enzyme added in? I have done an extensive biofilm protocol with antimicrobials and am now using some of your bionic fiber supplements.

    • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

      sallycinnamonAU

      Thank you for you kinds words! Glad you enjoyed the posts and podcast with Eli.

      I’ve learned so much from Eli and many other elite athletes. It’s not just all GENES IT’S THE GUTTTTTT~! lol

      Honey is not the same prebiotic that our ancestors enjoyed. The breakdown of carbs particularly high GI, high fructose type of carbohydrates depends on the microbiota. If you don’t have the ancestral template of good gut symbionts, honey becomes candy for the adverse, bad opportunistic flora. I’ve seen tons of BIG HONEY FAILS. They get fat and ill. I think it is gut disrupting if the lean core microbiota are depleted as these are the best degraders of fructose monosaccharides and oligos:
      –B longum
      –good lacto

      Also most honey is likely to be fake. And if not fake, then I’m not sure what quantity would be ok. Depending on the microbiota and what shifts?

      No gut test picks up the probiotics very well imho. What probiotics do is shift the gut ecosystem(s) and this however is measurable. I look at the core.

      Acetate is one of the best biofilm busters and it needs to produced by the gut flora (ingesting vinegar helps, but generally, this is not enough for longterm health). Acetate controls fungi and pathogenic microbes, therefore acetate is antifungal and antimicrobial. Where acetate is missing, overgrowths of Candida and opportunistic bacteria occur particularly in the small intestines.

      The best acetate producers (which are all significantly killed off by #stupidgerbilgutpotatostarch) are:
      –Akkermansia
      –Bifidobacteria longum
      –Bifidobacteria bifidum
      –etc

      Acetate is everything. Those who use potato starch have none. Their guts are overridden with non-ancestral butyrate and butyrate producers which disable the immunity of the gut. Depletion of stool acetate is an epidemic problem just as high carbohydrate SAD diets are detrimental to the gut. Acetate is Nature’s best antifungal/anti-microbial for optimal gut health. A good amount is 60% of total SCFAs (#gerbilgutPS users have < 10-20% on stools and corresponding elevated biomarkers of gut inflammation: EPX, sIgA, depleted Faecalibacterium/Roseburia/B.longum, etc)

      I use all types of biofilm busters but the SBO probiotics are the best. They naturally produce ways to lower pathogenic biofilms include fungi based ones which are a b*tch.

      Great questions! I'd love to hear your progress and challenges with bionic fiber.

  • Samantha Rodes

    Dear Grace,

    My case is a little complex, but I’ll try to keep it short. I did different things to eradicate my IBS-C (although it can turn into IBS-D with mild bloating)- Berberine, SBO’s, Oregano…. It all really, really helped. Right now, I’m in a bit of pickle, and I cannot figure out 100% what is going on.
    My Diet is 99% Paleo- I say that, because I take a sprouted, raw, allergen free, organic brown rice protein powder; it’s the only kind I can tolerate. Otherwise, it’s completely paleo. During my SIBO treatment, I had zero nuts, eggs, shellfish, and nightshades, and have incorporated them back without any adverse reactions. I eat kimchi, coconut water kefir/yogurt, fermented veg, and some kombucha on occasion.
    For supplements, I take a multivitamin, an omega 3, zinc carnosine, L-Glutamine, and enzymes/HCL. I also take a new probiotic that was formulated by Dr Perlmutter (Brain Maker/Grain Brain author) and Garden of Life; 90 Billion CFUs
    Here are my symptoms:
    – Belching post meals
    – Constipation
    – Feeling like I do not completely evacuate.
    – Occasional acne-like spots
    With the constipation, I technically go everyday, but its either really hard and pellet shaped or loose. I also would like to mention that I am recovering from having eaten a vegan diet for 2 years (I just went paleo a few months ago), so I started taking HCL (I did the test and only need 3-4 caps) and pancreatin. But this still persists. To get a BM, I take Magna Calm, which helps, along with Swedish Bitters with meals and before bed; I tried Ibergast, and that seems to work a little. What I’m saying is that these ‘help’, but not completely.
    I’ve tried taking SBOs, and have mixed results. The good? Well, my face is blemish free! I get zero bloating. BUT, I get seriously backed up and my constipation just worsens.
    Recently, I tried taking a Prebiotic powder by Body Ecology called Eco Bloom (just 1 scoop) and got slightly gassy and even more backed up.
    I don’t know what and where to go and do from here. I’m wondering if I should start supporting my liver to deal with any potential die-off that may or may not be lingering, and to stimulate bile production.
    Several of my potential SIBO causes were 10+ years of suffering from intense psychological stress/abuse, poor diet (vegan), fluctuating weight (from IBS, which I’ve had all my life- sometimes I’d get so much diarrhea that I’d lose weight- it’s been stable for the past three years, though! XD), never breast fed (had colic), and any potential ‘stomach flus’ that plagued my life at one point (I used to get one regularly for about 8 years, but hardly ever do) along with a mild case of candida I had (but cured) last summer.
    I’ve had success with kyolic/garlic and berberine, but would like to know your input.

    • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

      Samantha

      Good for gut-acne axis with using the SBOs! Congrats on the skin improvements.

      I’m sorry to hear about the ongoing gut complexities. What testing have you done, have you tried all 7 Steps, what parasite evaluations have been completed?

      • Samantha Rodes

        I’ve done a Metagenics stool analysis, testing for candida/yeasts/parasites from my ND. The good? All clear; just signs of inflammation. The bad? Still figuring out what the heck is going on, and the fact that I literally invested all my savings into the test, which cost around $500. I cannot afford any more testing, and my insurance doesn’t even cover my ND appointments to begin with. I’ve seen a ‘regular’ MD who did testing as well, and concluded I had no ‘problems’ and waved me off as being anxious and just suffering from IBS. In my family, IBS is quite common- my sister, grandmother, aunt, cousins, and great grandmother all suffered from some IBS-related ailment. In addition to that, high cholesterol and acid reflux is prevalent; my father, grandmother, great grandfather, and grand-aunt, all have it, which from what I now understand is due to LOW stomach acid.
        I just belch a lot post meals… I’m supplementing with HCL, which is slowly but surely helping.
        A few months ago, I tried a ‘Detox’ from Renew Life, their most basic one which is also the mildest. I had horrible acne-breakouts and didn’t find much improvements in my bowels. However, taking a Berberine complex has been the most beneficial, especially when I treated what I believed to be was SIBO. That was a self-diagnosis, admittedly, but going on a LOW FODMAP/SCD diet and taking Berberine, Oregano Oil, and Garlic (Kyolic) really helped.
        Now I believe I may have some MMC/motility problems, especially since I know the gut-brain axis plays a significant role in bowel movements and digestion overall. I’m considering supplementing with 5 HTP, and perhaps going back to Berberine for a while, as I know it helps the liver, and might help clear out any potential nasties that may have sprung up.
        Again, though, I find that I cannot take an SBO probiotic for long, as it worsens my constipation. I’ve tried taking a low dose of a prebiotic to remedy this, and so far, nothing ‘good’ has come out of it.

        • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

          HI Samantha

          IBS-C is an aggregate of nasty flora, yeasts and deficiencies of the beneficial protecting flora (Akkermansia, B longum, etc). Those nasty flora are quite tenacious particularly yeasts. This is why you find good relief because the combo of weeding agents are all antifungal. Berberine doesn’t grow Akkermansia well however. Good for you for pursuing a better path for your gut and health! You’ve accomplished so much!

          All SBOs complicate the constipation (but cured the acne)? Which ones specifically?
          Which fiber and prebiotics were you using?

          The old Metagenics stool test was revised. How were the SCFAs in the stool and ratios of acetate:propionate:butyrate?

          • Samantha Rodes

            For the test, I cannot honestly write to you the ratios any longer, as it was done prior to my weeding protocol, and I do not have the financial means of re-testing.
            For SBOs, I’m referring to Prescript Assist and Advanced Orthomolecular Research AOR, Advanced Series Probiotic 3.
            For now, I am taking a lacto-bifido probiotic by Garden of Life that was formulated by Dr. Perlmutter (Grain Brain, Brain Maker); it has 90 Billion CFUs. I’m on my second bottle. It helps a little with motility, but not by much. When I first started taking it, I truly WAS constipated, in that I went a day or two without producing any BMs. I break open the cap and add it to my morning green smoothie (no fruit). As I said before, it helps, but not completely.
            Two weeks ago, I tried incorporating a prebiotic fiber by Body Ecology called Eco Bloom, which is just pure chicory root FOS. It’s been 2 weeks since I started taking it; just 1 scoop a day, usually with my aforementioned morning drink. I’ve found that I get occasional gas- not smelly or foul, thank goodness, but very minor. Then the constipation returned and the slight bloat. As I said before, I technically ‘go’ everyday, but it feels incomplete, and comes out in chunks.
            I should also add that I get a lot of belching, no matter what I what, whether it’s only avocado, eggs, or spinach; I tried isolating all of these things to see what it was that was causing it, and it’s everything. I used to be a vegan a year ago (I was studying to become a yoga instructor and it was urged that we adopt a non-violent ‘diet’). Now, for the past four months, I’ve been paleo, and I attribute some of my woes to low acid; whether or not the SIBO caused it or my poor vegan diet remains to be seen. But the belching has always been a problem. Funny enough, my father was recently diagnosed with an H Pylori infection; for the past 15 years, he’s been on PPIs, and continues to belch constantly as well… he also suffers from heartburn and reflux. He told me that it actually runs in the family (grandmother/aunt/uncle/great grandmother/great-great grandmother all have/had it). So I found that to be interesting. A nutritionist friend of mine suspects that I might actually have H Pylori problems instead of SIBO. But I’ve heard that SIBO can cause gerd/reflux/acid problems as well.

          • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

            Hi Samantha

            I’m glad you are finding the podcasts and comments here helpful. Please feel free to contact me. Would love to offer you information on my consults. I love your energy and am confident you are on the right path for improved gut health

          • Samantha Rodes

            Dropped you a message through the contact tab! Thanks!

          • Samantha Rodes

            The constipation is driving me nuts. I’ve thankfully expanded my knowledge by looking at your comments on tons of other posts. However some of the info is mixed on recommendations.
            I’ve done plenty of helpful things, but not all simultaneously. I can tolerate fermented foods just fine.
            Still don’t know what the deal is with SBOs though. But I know that glutamine and certain enzymes help. In fact when I just tried using only HCL and pancreatic as a supplement for digestion I had brilliant frequency of bms which have only just stopped. I belch and feel like my food is trapped again. I just want to know step by step what exact supplements to use precise botanicals products etc

    • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

      Samantha

      I’d love to hear from you. Sadly I didn’t get your note yet. Please use the below link

      https://thegutinstitute.com/contact

      • Samantha Rodes

        Just tried again- I’m in a better, hopeful mood than before! Can’t wait to hear from you!

        • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

          It went into the twilight zone — I’m sorry I did not receive, mmmhh ;(

  • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

    sallycinnamonAU

    Thank you for you kinds words. Glad you enjoyed the posts and podcast with Eli!

    I’ve learned so much from Eli and many other elite athletes. It’s not just all GENES IT’S THE GUTTTTTT~! lol

    Honey is not the same prebiotic that our ancestors enjoyed. The breakdown of carbs particularly high GI, high fructose type of carbohydrates depends on the microbiota. If you don’t have the ancestral template of good gut symbionts, honey becomes candy for the adverse, bad opportunistic flora. I’ve seen tons of BIG HONEY FAILS. They get fat and ill. I think it is gut disrupting if the lean core microbiota are depleted as these are the best degraders of fructose monosaccharides and oligos:
    –B longum
    –good lacto

    Also most honey is likely to be fake. And if not fake, then I’m not sure what quantity would be ok. Depending on the microbiota and what shifts?

    No gut test picks up the probiotics very well imho. What probiotics do is shift the gut ecosystem(s) and this however is measurable. I look at the core.

    Acetate is one of the best biofilm busters and it needs to produced by the gut flora (ingesting vinegar helps, but generally, this is not enough for longterm health). Acetate controls fungi and pathogenic microbes, therefore acetate is antifungal and antimicrobial. Where acetate is missing, overgrowths of Candida and opportunistic bacteria occur particularly in the small intestines.

    The best acetate producers (which are all significantly killed off by #stupidgerbilgutpotatostarch) are:
    –Akkermansia
    –Bifidobacteria longum
    –Bifidobacteria bifidum
    –etc

    Acetate is everything. Those who use potato starch have none. Their guts are overridden with non-ancestral butyrate and butyrate producers which disable the immunity of the gut. Depletion of stool acetate is an epidemic problem just as high carbohydrate SAD diets are detrimental to the gut. Acetate is Nature’s best antifungal/anti-microbial for optimal gut health. A good amount is 60% of total SCFAs (#gerbilgutPS users have < 10-20% on stools and corresponding elevated biomarkers of gut inflammation: EPX, sIgA, depleted Faecalibacterium/Roseburia/B.longum, etc)

    I use all types of biofilm busters but the SBO probiotics are the best. They naturally produce ways to lower pathogenic biofilms include fungi based ones which are a b*tch.

    Great questions! I'd love to hear your progress and challenges with bionic fiber.

  • darlingjojo

    Hi Dr. Grace and All internally interested,
    This is a true story that some will find interesting. My husband decided 40 years ago he would eat yogurt, it was dubbed a”health food” and, it, along with “jogging” was the secret of eternal youth the news touted. Running shoes flew from store shelves, and rivers of milk became magma like yogurt in more flavors and styles then could ever be counted. My husband needed yogurt two times a day, I said, “Its ruckey, but I will buy it anyway.” He “jogged” in his parka on the coldest of days, he “jogged” lightly clad if the sun was ablaze. He ate his dear yogurt, then one day it started, he burped real loud and then he farted. His butt went prruttt, prrutt, PRRUTTT! His gas was so grand from fanny to mouth, that we were all puzzled as to what would cause these gaseous, spouts. He saw many a doctor all through the years, they poked and they prodded from his mouth to his rear. “Nothing is wrong young man, you’re fit as a fiddle, don’t mind the air, it is only a little.” On the way home I cranked open a window, disgruntled I thought, “Lord make this simple”. Next morning was hard, more “yogurt wars” had begun, I didn’t have the right flavor yogurt for the Jogging One. He looked in the frig and said in disgust, “I don’t like these flavors, get rid of this stuff.” I shouted, “But Honey, we can’t throw all this away, you liked these just days ago. Nothing has changed.” He shouted right back, “I hate these flavors, go get me some different!” I shouted right back, “This cannot be done, God has made no other flavors and you have had every one! You simply hate yogurt, just admit, you think its disgusting deep down inside, and you think it tastes just like sh**. He thought for a moment about the flavors on Earth, then realized it was the yogurt part that just didn’t work. He shouted, “You are right! I really hate the stuff! It tastes like crap! I’m giving it up!” And so, after decades the “yogurt wars” came to an end. But that is not all, to our great surprise, the burping and farting met a speedy demise! Friends, there is peace in our valley, no thundering gas out of his mouth or out of his a**. Oh, he gave up jogging like many a folk, he has a new knee and doesn’t want it broke. My best advice, when looking for health proceed with great caution, ask the Lord for guidance and pray often.

    • herearewe

      Yes, never mind all this scientific nonsense, what a waste of time and money. In reality we need only ask, and a fictional man in the sky will guide the way.

      Do us all a favour and take your terrible writing and religious garbage elsewhere.

      • darlingjojo

        Don’t be a humorless, old poop. Our “best” health admonitions are actually the wisdom of the ages set by the hand of God. The God of the Bible is an uncreated God that was loved by the best scientific minds like Isaac Newton, Capernicus, Galileo, Einstein (infamous for asking, “I wonder how God did that?”, unashamedly in front of his fellow scientists). Many physicists are actually believers in God. And, so are many astronauts. Sorry to burst your bubble. And you can’t be God and your are just mad as hell about it.
        The story I told is true, although written as humor, the man was a mess for years till he quit eating yogurt. Also a friend of mine was sick for months till she went and got scoped, pronounced well by her doc, so I asked her if she was eating yogurt? She said yes, “Activia brand”. I had a little of that once, never again. For some it works miracles. In fact, the Bible is where you will find the expression, “What is one man’s meat is another’s poison.” Ha! God gave them sharp minds, oh what an unfair advantage to the none believers. Anyway, I suggested giving up yogurt and she well in a week. Not all bacteria are good for all people’s guts. So if your butt is out of whack pray for wisdom and wellness and see a good up to date, believing, doctor. Eat like your ancestors, Adam and Eve after the Fall.

        • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

          HI Darlingjojo,

          I concur with you — all brilliant people have a ‘religion’ be it spirit-based, divinity-based, science-based or skepticism-based ahah lol.

          Love your story ‘Friends, there is peace in our valley, no thundering gas out of his mouth or out of his a**. Oh, he gave up jogging like many a folk, he has a new knee and doesn’t want it broke. My best advice, when looking for health proceed with great caution, ask the Lord for guidance and pray often.’

          Peace in the valley is important for health 😉

  • Hi Dr Grace, thanks so much for all your brilliant info. I have just received FMT treatment for IBS and had previously been on the GAPS diet. Also took a load of anti fungals and went elemental for a bit to eradicate Sibo. Taken probiotics and fermented foods a lot but only recently switched to the sbos. Gut tests before FMT showed that I had got rid of most pathogens but overall diversity was very low and the ancestral core definitely depleted. I feel a lot better after FMT but still have some gi distress (gas) -though the clinic said it’s still early days and that I have to wait at least 3 months ( also to retest). I’ve tried bionic fibre in the morning and it made me super bloated so the clinic advised me to take it easy. Their prebiotic of choice is bimuno which I have a bit of in the evening. I try to vary that with inulin, acacia, yacon etc but in very small doses. I also try and eat a lot of RS3 and inulin rich foods. Still get a lot of bloating. I just wanted to ask your advise: do you think my approach is good? Is it normal to get a lot of gas at first? I also sometimes get headaches and fatigue after starchy foods. I’m assuming the core bacteria should be in my gut now but I haven’t retested yet. Which prebiotics do you think I should concentrate on most if I cannot handle the full mix yet?
    I look forward to your answer, many thanks for all the great work again! Cheers, Layla

    • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

      Layla,

      What is the clinic success rate for IBS? What type of IBS do you have, mixed, C or D?

      Yes I believe there can be a transitory period of gas, bloating and flatulence. However within 1-2 wks, this should really all subside. Or the dosage or mix need to be adjusted as you’ve done so.

      What probiotics are you currently taking? Is this allowed after FMT?

      The considerations I would think about are: going slow, low doses and getting followup testing to track the populations (Genova diagnostics, ubiome, etc).
      What are you taking to rebuild the gut lining?
      Were you ruled out for parasites, protozoa, etc prior to the FMT?

      • Dear Grace, thanks so much for the reply!
        They say the success rate for IBS is very individual but they’ve had success especially with post-antibiotic dysbiosis. I had D when I was a vegetarian and then turned into C as I started eating meat. I currently alternate between probiotic 3, prescript assist, primal defense, vsl3 and biokult and was advised by the clinic to do so. Also have homemade yoghurt, cultured veggies and kombucha. The clinic said that it was pointless testing until the Immune system had made new antibodies (3 months after FMT). I was clear of yeasts and parasites pre FMT as you can see in my pictures below but definitely suffered from SIBO which I cleared up a bit beforehand but am worried to be taking any more anti microbials now…I take curcumin and bone broth for gut healing. In your experience will the Sibo eventually go away if you feed the ancestral core or could I be worsening it again by eating prebiotics? Which prebiotics would be the most important ones to focus on if I can’t take the full mix? My health is definitely improved generally, but my digestion is still rough.
        http://realfoodrealhealth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/image23.jpg

        http://realfoodrealhealth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/image24.jpg

        • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

          Hey Layla,

          This is prior to FMT?

          This test doesn’t give yeast profile anymore reliable so from what I see, I would predict heaping yeasts (low bifido, low Akk, low butyrate produers — Roseburia, etc).

          That is why you’re still having gut problems. Klebsiella and group B strep are also quite tenacious. The best way to remove these are with the bifido/lacto based probiotics combined with SBOs in my opinion. VSL#3 is actually loaded with Strep. I personally would avoid it if you are not seeing clear gut results.

          Please let me know the results of future testing! I think you are on the right gut path.

          • Thanks, Grace! Yes, this were the test results in preparation for FMT. So does the gi effects not properly detect yeasts? A comprehensive parasitology I did about 6 months before did show yeasts http://realfoodrealhealth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/image22.jpg so I did go on anti-fungals for a while before I did the gi effects. So I was hoping I had eradicated them…Would I have to do the organic acids test to really know about yeasts? I’ll definitely do more testing when the three months are over.

          • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

            Layla,

            YEs this is a very typical IBS/IBD/obesity pattern:
            –high pathogens
            high yeasts/fungi, high starch-eating bifidobacteria (eg animalis, adolescentis), high Strep, high adhesive E coli
            –with ‘extinct’ symbionts: Bifidobacteria longum and Akkermansia.

            Klebsiella feeds on sugar, starches, raw starches and (sometimes) inulin — the best way to lower is with bifido-based probiotics (which none you listed). Renew bifido max is great. Many other brands exist as well.

            I think you have a ways to go but you are absolutely on the right path. Keep up the strong work and would love to hear more about your progress soon!

          • Thanks, Grace! I shall try the bifido probiotics. I’ve avoided starches and sugars for 2 years but it hasn’t restored my gut very much though other things have improved. So I’ll try sticking to RS3 rich tubers etc hoping I’ve got all the right bacteria to feed now. I’ll try and remember to post an update in a few months time when I’ve retested! It’ll sure be interesting to see how much FMT has shifted my populations. Cheers again for your help and I love your podcast! Keep it up!

  • sapna

    hi Grace

    Thank you so much for all your contribution! I have 1 question for which I don’t seem to find the answer on your blog anywhere. If I start taking probiotics like Prescript Assist how many days or months will it take to reach my baby’s gut through the breast milk( since I am breast feeding my baby)?

    • DrGracePharmD-Gut_Goddess

      sapna,

      On testing many of the strains are undetectable as right not the limits are if 200 prebiotic oligosaccharide (fiber) and many strains of gut flora in human breastmilk. Our blood type actually designates which oligosaccharides are produced into the milk, which is absolutely fascinating to me. People with celiac make less of the good fiber and hence their babies and children appear to have less of the ancestral core gut guardians like Akkermansia and Bifidobacteria longum.

      What I surmise is that evolutionary wise, the ancestors of these blood types may have consumed plenty of prebiotic complex fiber in their diet hence lost these abilities to secrete them. These foods include inulin- and oligosaccharide rich foods such as non-starch roots and tubers (sunchokes, parsnips, carrots, daikon, rutabagaus, etc), onion family (leeks, garlic, etc), grains, beans and lentils. I’d love to see studies and the microbiota results in babies and moms on different diets during lactation!!

      Consider submitting some samples sapna? Contact me if you want suggestions 😉

      What I observe is those with suboptimal health are low in the ancestral core which all healthy guts appear to have. The 7 Steps boosts all of these! It’s very easy esp after appropriate weeding (AND AVOIDING ALL RAW #GERBILFOODPOTATOSTARCH which lowers all the protective ancestral core)

      http://www.researchgate.net/publication/26670590_Towards_the_human_intestinal_microbiota_phylogenetic_core

      You may contact ubiome — I think they take samples such as breastmilk — if not suggest a study to them!! I’d love to more data that is relevant to our future generations and their optimal health!

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